| Manuals (Dec 18, 2000) |
Ignorance (Oct 29, 2002) |
| Nice Web sites for South
Bend Lathes (Dec 18, 2000) |
Metal Project Plans (Nov
3, 2002) |
| Old machine purchases
(Apr 12, 2001) |
Atlas manual (Dec 18,
2002) |
| I Back That Up (Apr 16,
2001) |
I need a good book (Feb
14, 2003) |
| Castings (Apr 17, 2001) |
Books Recommendations (Feb 15, 2003) |
| Site with SB data sheets
(Apr 22, 2001) |
Machine tool vacation destination (Apr 16, 2003) |
| Scraping Books
(May 12,
2001) |
FYI
on lathe choice article (Apr 16, 2003) |
| SB Lathe Machine Shop course -
Book (Jun 29, 2001) |
American Machinist Assn-publications (May 6, 2003) |
| Quality accessories for your 9"
SB (Jul 1, 2001) |
Southbend cross slide screw repair URL (Jun 26, 2003) |
| Sheldon parts (Jul 12,
2001) |
Nice link for general machining info (Jun 30, 2003) |
| Lautard books (Jul 21,
2001) |
New
scanned book (Sep 11, 2003) |
| On-line source of SB parts
diagram? (Jul 27, 2001) |
Machine Tool Reconditioning (Oct 22, 2003) |
| Half Nut Repair Magazines
(Nov 28, 2001) |
Gears for an old 13" SB (Nov 5, 2003) |
| Book resources, scraping
(Jan 18, 2002) |
Good info for novices (Jan 12, 2004) |
| Scraping and flaking, Mike
Morgan's book (Jan 24, 2002) |
Improving your S.B. lathe (Jan 24, 2004) |
| Training material (Army)
(Mar 31, 2002) |
Finding 20mm X 1.5 pitch threaded rod (Mar 22, 2004) |
| Rollie's Dad's method of
alignment (Apr 10, 2002) |
Magazines to read (Canadian) (Mar 23, 2004) |
| Connelly's book, online
books (Apr 18, 2002) |
Jacobs Drill Web Site (Mar 27, 2004) |
| Home Shop Machinist Jul/Aug
1989? (Jul 19, 2002) |
Calculator (Mar 28, 2004) |
| SB 9" 10K tech manual Online!
(Jul 26, 2002) |
Website with lots of neat stuff (May 7, 2004) |
| South Bend Lathe Manuals
(Jul 31, 2002) |
Parts for Heavy 10 (oil cups) (Nov 21, 2004) |
| 1973 SBL Accessories Catalog
(Aug 15, 2002) |
Elementary ed (Nov 27, 2004) |
| SB Lathe Machine Shop course -
Book (Aug 31, 2002) |
Gear Cutting - handy paperback (Dec 6, 2004) |
| Interesting Compilation of Books
(Sep 3, 2002) |
Great site for info (Dec 31, 2004) |
| Interesting Web Site
(Oct 24, 2002) |
Hemingway Kits (Jan 19,
2005) |
| How to run a lathe-book
(Oct 24, 2002) |
Custom Leather Drive Belt
Supplier (Mar 30,
2007) |
| |
| Manuals |
| While you look for
a manual, the South Bend book "How to run a Lathe", available from
Lindsey Books for $8.00 is a very close second. It has a lot of SB
specific info on the smaller lathes. (5) |
| I just got off the phone with SBL and
I learned that my SB Precision Lathe Model A was originally shipped
Jan 13, 1941. I ordered the manual for it for $25.00 (we'll see if
its the correct one). They also said parts are available for it, but
I'll bet they aren't cheap. Anyway, the URL for SBL parts is:
http://www.southbendlathecorp.com/parts.htm and the phone number is
800-525-2843. They are very pleasant and helpful. Just give them a
call. I'll let the group know about the manual when it arrives.
Paul R. (6) |
| Nice Web sites for South
Bend Lathes |
| South Bend Lathes
Home Page. http://www.southbendlathecorp.com/index.htm South Bend
9-inch "Workshop" Lathe
http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend9-inch/index.html
Home Page of details on all 9" Model Lathes
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/wasser/SBLathe/index.html (7) |
| Old machine purchases |
| Would also like to
give a plug for Plaza Machine, Joe Burgeon, PO Box 14, Back River
Road, Bethel, VT 05032, (802) 234-9673. Carl recommended him to me and was
kind enough to send me his extensive list of used machinery, like
around 70 9" SBs to put things in perspective. I purchase a very
hard to find, for me anyway, 13" small spindle, that's the 1 7/8 8TPI
#4MT spindle, collet closer and collet sleeve and some #2 collets
from Joe. He was also nice enough to loan me a 1 7/8 tap to chase a
backing plate that was a tad tight at no charge other than a
deposit. Joe's not on the net, to my knowledge, but works well with
faxes and is very helpful with amateurs like me. tom (310) |
| I also have had
only good experiences with Joe. He sold me my 1935 SB Workshop in
1995, as well as lots of stuff for it afterwards. Jay (315) |
| I Back That Up
|
| Contact
Meridian Machinery www.mermac.com or call 631-777-1317. He has
used parts and a very vast knowledge. The owner Dave Ficken is a
very patient man and has helped me with my search for parts." I just
want to say that I also have had very positive help from Meridian
getting reasonably priced parts for my SB 9C. No relation or
nothing, just a happy customer. Mr. Ficken must come from the
Southern end of Manhattan or something, he is very polite and
helpful. Bubba K. (528) |
| Castings |
| Is there only one
co. selling casting kits in the US? Bill (532) |
| Yes, there is only
one guy in the us. his name is Andrew Lofquist at metal lathe
accessories. I think he is loosely associated with the guy in
Britain who manufactures the similar kits there. He is in the
eastern time zone. Best way to get a hold of him is to call. No
online ordering. He is not online yet either. He is a really stand
up guy. Ups crunched one of the boxes and castings and he sent me
new ones ASAP. Great guy to deal with. The quality of the castings
is VERY good. I expected dirty, nasty, as founded objects, but they
were nice and clean. The drawings are very good hand drafted on
11x17. the instructions are comprehensive, pictures are good too but
few. The cast iron machines like any good cast iron. dusty. I am
working on both the t-slot cross slide, the real tool post mount and
the transfer block. I would say the the hardest thing is work
holding and set up. Machining takes the least amount of time. Since
these are reference standards and influence the relative precision
of the tool overall, I find that I have been taking extra time in
all of this. There is a guy linked on Andy's site that does the
machining on the cross slide. I think it was like $200 total for
casting, machining and shipping. Consider that a good 60 deg.
dovetail cutter will cost you $75 and the counterbore another $20.
If you don't have the tooling already, consider the ready made
slide. Its a wash considering the rest. dennis (533) |
| Actually Andy is
on-line at http://www.sc-c.com/metallathe Bill (537) |
| Site with SB
data sheets |
| I came across this
site from a post in another group.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/southbend/index.html
It has pictures of the different style of SB lathes. Great for
newbies to determine which lathe they bought. Now you can see the
difference between a 9" workshop and a heavy 10. Dave (550) |
| Scraping Books |
| The one
book that all machine tool rebuilders/restorers should have in their
libraries is: "Machine Tool Reconditioning" by Edward F. Connelly.
This is the "Bible" that most scrapers refer too. It has gotten
pricey lately. I got my copy a long time ago and I use it frequently
for referencing procedures for repair and testing of machine tools.
It was first published in 1955. Look for used copies at used book
stores or possibly on eBay. Webb (633) |
| SB Lathe
Machine Shop course - Book |
| I have a copy
of The South Bend Machine Shop course. In it are a variety of
projects specifically numbered: 1, 2, 3, 6, 13, 15, 18, 20, 24, 39,
42 and 47. Does anybody know where missing projects can be located.
Note: this book is complete. It would appear some projects simply
didn't make it into this publication. I am sure the projects are
pretty basic to "real machinists" but for me they are fun and
challenging. Ray (965) |
| Ray, Don't know
about the missing one's, but I'd like to know what the included
projects are. Paul R. (966) |
| No problem, No. 1
Nail Set No. 2 Center Punch and Drift Punch No. 3 Plumb Bob NO. 6 60
degree lathe centers, head and tail No. 13 1" Bolt and Nut No. 15
Screwdriver, Steel No. 18 C clamp No. 20 Machinist's Clamp No. 24
Machinist's Hammer Kit No. 39 Small Bench Vise No. 42 Machinist's
Jack Screw No. 47 Adjustable Tap Wrench Hmmm, to fill in the gaps.
Ray (973) |
| Quality
accessories for your 9" SB |
| I'd like to make
everyone here aware of a company that I've recently dealt with. They
are "Metal Lathe Accessories" , Box 88 , Pine Grove Mills, Pa. Their
Web site is
www.sc-c.com/metallathe .I saw some of their products at the
"Cabin Fever Expo" , in Lebonon, Pa. earlier this year, and not only
did I like what I saw, they were beautiful ! Their products are sold
mainly in "kit form" , which consists of very good quality castings
in grey iron. Buying in that form keeps the price a little more
affordable, and you get to do it yourself. I ordered and just
completed and installed a "T slot cross slide" to replace the
existing one on my compound which gives me more capabilities,
however it has no provisions to utilize my taper attachment with it.
I think that could be handled with a little ingenuity, though.
Otherwise, I'll just re-install my original cross slide. no big deal
! They've also got face plates, milling attachments, steady rests,
boring and facing heads, quick change and quick retracting tool
posts, etc. Prices are fair and shipping is prompt. Check them out !
(no, I don't get a cut if you buy something !) John (994) |
| Sheldon parts
|
| As I've
told many of you on some of these lists I have a Sebastian lathe by
Sheldon. I was recently looking for some parts (turned out I only
needed some standard bushings I obtained locally) but during my
search I contacted Gallery Of Machines 20 Front Street, P.O. Box 460
Marathon, NY 13803 Phone: 607-849-6028 Fax: 607-849-6000 Brett
Hartman at Gallery was kind enough to share the name and other info
below for Sheldon parts: Sheldon Machine Company -Division of Acme
Technologies Group- Po Box 949 2100 Cedar St. Fremont, OH 43420
phone: 800-553-2263 (parts) 419-334-8971 Fax: 419-334-7151 I called
the 800 number and they could not help without a part number. They
asked for the serial and model number of the lathe; said they'd send
me a parts list. Today I received not just a parts list but a copy
of the COMPLETE OWNER'S MANUAL!!!!! Very nice folks (both Gallery of
Machines and Sheldon. Lew (1076) |
| Lautard books |
| Have any idea where
the Lautard books can be obtained? Sounds like good reading. Jim
(1151) |
| I got mine a
few years ago through the mail, but he has a website now!
http://www.lautard.com/ There
are three books in the "BEDSIDE READER" series. No need to price
shop. Buy them right from his website. He charges $20., $22., $27.
for them which includes postage. Amazon wants $27, $26., $32. PLUS
shipping. Guy might even give you a deal if you buy all three at
once, ask him. He's a nice guy, and willing to talk shop. Don't
start reading if you want to sleep though they really are good,
and hard to put down. (1152) |
| On-line source
of SB parts diagram? |
| Some time ago I
found on the web a superb PDF file of South Bend's standard set of
lathe parts diagrams. The reproduction quality appeared to be
superior to the standard photocopy versions. Unfortunately, I
neglected to bookmark the site and can no longer find it. Anyone
know where it is? Kim (1199) |
| The files (or
possibly FILE) I am looking for are PDF files and have much better
quality than anything I can find through those links. If anyone
knows where this is, it would make an excellent direct link from the
Bookmarks page. Kim (1206) |
| This site has very
high quality diagrams of the 9" lathe:
http://people.ne.mediaone.net/wasser/SBLathe/index.html
(1210) |
| Right, I've seen
that one. No, the resolution on these diagrams is crude compared to
the site I am trying to relocate. The files were PDF files and took
forever to download -- that's why I bailed before hitting the
"print" button . . . I had real work to do. Unfortunately, I lost
the url. I have probably three photocopy sets of the SB lathe
diagrams, and I had the impression that a print of this file would
have surpassed any of them in quality. Kim (1211) |
| I know the one
you're thinking of... In a fit of "I know I'll lose it if I don't
download it," I pulled the whole 5.44meg pdf file. With permission
(or sufficient interest), maybe I can post it to the "Files"
directory. If not, we can try a private exchange. -G-(1238) |
| Half Nut
Repair Magazines |
| Machinist's
Workshop and The Home Shop Machinist are both published bimonthly by
Village Press. Subscription rates are listed as $24.50 and $27.50
respectfully. The web address is
http://www.villagepress.com/workshop and /homeshop. I
enjoy both and find useful tips and articles for both the hobbyist
and professional. The half nut refurbish shown in the article was
done on an "L" fixture with the half nuts mounted on the inside of
the long "L" leg. The fixture was then mounted in the lathe 4 jaw
chuck and indicated in by placing an acme tap in the remaining
thread and indicating on the tap shaft. The old threads then were
bored out. The author then removed the half nuts leaving the fixture
mounted in the chuck on location. After brazing in the thread area
the nuts were remounted on the fixture and bored and tapped. He
apparently had the fixture material and tap on hand and the $9
referred to in the article was for the brazing by the outside shop.
I have an old set of nuts I removed from the lathe I'm currently
rebuilding and will try this. Ed (2271) |
| Book
resources, scraping |
| I found
www.lindsaybks.com to be a
good resource for machinery books, since I became interested in
metalworking in the past year. Some of their stuff gets resold on
eBay at marked up prices. I liked their reprint book entitled _Bench
Lathe Manufacture and Hand Scraping_, for only $5.95. The important
parts about the shape of the scraper and sharpening methods are well
covered. I also bought Michael Morgan's book and video from them,
which had just a little more info than the above title. I think
Morgan's books might not be available now (Lindsay Books said that
they are not going to stock his stuff any more). You can also look
for titles on the internet. Searching under "used books" will lead
you to a variety of sites. I located a copy of the Connelly book for
under $40 on www.abe.com , and am
awaiting shipment. I haven't seen that book yet, so I don't know how
much info it contains. The www.abe.com website has about 20 different
listings of SB's _How to Run a Lathe_, so you can probably find an
edition close to the year of your lathe's manufacture.
Jon (2807) |
| Scraping and
flaking, Mike Morgan's book |
| Previously on
this site, we have discussed Mike Morgan's book and video on
scraping. These were quite useful for a beginner such as myself.
Sadly, his book and video currently are unavailable, due to the
failure of his machine tool rebuilding business. For more info, see:
http://www.chaski.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_machine/webbbs_config.pl?read=62511
It is possible that they will become available sometime in the
future... In the meantime, I have scanned a few pages from his book
into my computer. They cover: how to sharpen a scraper (5 pages, 350 kB), and how to make the crescent-shaped flaking marks (8 pages,
1500 kB). If anyone wants these *.PDF pages, contact me and I will
email them to you. Under the circumstances, I don't feel that this
is a serious copyright infringement, at least until his work becomes
available again. Jon (2924) |
| Call a w
precision. Guy's name is Allan. They are the ones who actually MAKE
the Anderson scrapers. 1-815-877-7823. Loves park, Illinois (Rockford
area) I just got a copy of the book. I think he has more. I know the
video is backordered. dennis
(2928) |
| I did not
know there still were some books available commercially. Please
support machine rebuilder and teacher Mike Morgan in a small way by
buying a copy. Perhaps if demand is great enough, he can go through
another printing. Jon (2929) |
| You can buy
the book from the number that Dennis listed a few messages ago.
Please do that. If anyone else wants these files, please don't post
to the entire group for such a request. I am unable to send you an
attachment unless you write to me offsite. -Jon (2937) |
| Mike, It's
good to hear that your book and video are available. The scanned
pages that I sent out to to 6 people via *.pdf were just a small
fraction of your book. I will honor your request not to distribute
your work, and I will post this message on the South Bend Lathe
website. Would you please notify me when your Bridgeport book
becomes available? Jon (2952) |
| Training
material (Army) |
| There is a very good web site by the Army called
Fundamentals of Machine Tools,
http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/tc/9-524/toc.htm with
9 chapters that can be down loaded and printed if needed. Ken (3782) |
| Rollie's Dad's
method of alignment |
| There is a good
description of lathe alignment here:
http://home.attbi.com/~wasser/NEMES/RDMLatheAlignment.html
This method gets the headstock to be parallel to the bed ways of the
lathe. To do this method, you need an indicator and a cylindrical
bar that is of constant diameter. You can do a similar alignment for
the tailstock. I would use a 1/2" rod inserted into the tailstock
chuck. Because the tailstock does not rotate, you will need to make
measurements by removing, rotating, and re-inserting the tailstock
chuck into the taper hole. If the tailstock doesn't point in the
right direction, you can file or scrape away the veed out underneath
portion of the tailstock casting. I think you should first do the
headstock and lathe bed alignment. That will get the angles right.
Then, as a final check on location, you can put centers in both the
headstock and tailstock, and bring them together with a flat piece
of sheet metal in between. That will show you if the headstock and
tailstock are co-axial. Jon (3892) |
| Connelly's book, online books |
| I think that the
Connelly book, _Machine Tool Reconditioning_, is out of print and is
NOT available from www.lindsaybks.com You can do a web search for
this book or other old machine tool books on
www.abe.com , or some
other such site. ABE lists over 25 different copies of South Bend's
_How to Run a Lathe_, so you might find an edition that was printed
about the same year of your lathe, if that is of interest to you.
For obscure out of print books, the internet is a really good place
to look. Other places that have interesting old books are
www.addall.com and
www.barnesandnoble.com
. I have seen the Connelly book listed for prices from $35 to $100.
Jon
(3949) |
| Lindsay's
doesn't carry it, but it's not out of print. It's in stock and
available online at Powell's Books:
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=4-1114266612-0
(3950) |
| The Connelly
book is in print, and available from Powell's.
http://www.powells.com
It's $98.95, but I found it well worth the money. Dave (3956) |
| Home Shop
Machinist Jul/Aug 1989? |
| Anyone have
this copy? On page 18, I understand there is a plan for the
ultimate Lathe Cabinet/Stand by Ralph Walker... I'd like to try to
build a nice cabinet rather than a shaky 2x4 table for the lathe I
love. My woodworking skills far surpass my metalworking talents at
this point. Any chance you could scan the article and post it to
'files'? (5214) |
| There may be
an issue with copy right laws in posting an article from a
publication on the list. I suggest you contact HSM and see if they
still have a copy as a back issue. A small fee will bring it to your
door. Fred (5217) |
| Folks The
article is reprinted in the Projects Four collection. IBSN
0-941653-05-6 from Village Press Inc, 2779 Aero Park Drive, Traverse
City , Michigan 49684. Being in the UK I got my copy from Camden for
about œ25, hopefully its less expensive in the USA as the ratio of
"useful stuff" to "interesting read" is pretty low for normal
mortals. That's a more than excellent bench but be warned there is a
lot of work involved. I suspect the skill and tooling level required
is greater than Ralph appreciates. If you are gonna do that much
work it needs to be a really nice job and there are lots of places
where near enough just won't do. I wanted to make one to mount a
rebuilt 9" model A but chickened out! My eventual solution worked
far better than it had any right to and went together in a weekend.
In the UK we can get so called workstations/work carts which are
basically plastic cupboards on wheels in various styles. I bought a
couple made by Krieter (sp?) which were two door cupboards about 18
inches deep by 2 ft wide and about 3 ft high. These things are
supplied as a slot together flat pack with hollow tubular sections
to strengthen the legs and shelves. I dumped the wheels, wheel
fittings and original tops in the "useful bits store" and assembled
the rest with rough sawn timber rammed through all the hollow
sections for strength and screw and nut back ups to the shelf mounts
to give a box section effect. I got a couple of extra shelves too
and bolted the two units together so the whole thing turned out very
strong. The door hinges were offset pins top and bottom so I had to
add bit of planed timber plank on top at the door side and drill it
for the hinge pins. Fortunately a standard size was just the right
thickness to make the front level with the back and sides. Bolting
the two directly together was a mistake as I had to modify the doors
to let the inner pair open. Should have used a spacer a generous
inch thick. For the top I screwed on a one of the heavy duty boards
used on top of good kitchen cabinets via angle brackets. Having used
it before to top a stand for my previous Southbend (a 9" model C) I
knew it to be good stuff, reasonably priced, durable, remarkably flat,
oil proof and very stable. The back overhang left a nice space for a
five shelf metal rack between the unit and the wall. I mounted the
lathe and countershaft on small 1 inch deep stands to get a bit more
swarf tray room but direct mounting would work fine. I built the
thing in situ on a smooth, flat, level base made by covering part of
my workshop concrete floor with leveling compound. Obviously a stand
built like this has to be set level before the lathe goes on as it
is not strong enough to lever up and shim level with a lathe atop
it. Having rebuilt the lathe I gilded the lily with a dual
countershaft, back belt speed reducer unit giving me 24 speeds
including some nice slow direct belt ones (I hate backgear rattle).
After all that a Heavy 10 Toolroom with a full set of collets up to
1 1/16 turned up so the 9" was sold complete with bench.
Clive (5272) |
| Here is
another option. Sears has a woodworking lathe bench
http://www.sears.com/sr/mercado/searchall.jsp
I picked one up to mount an Atlas 6x19 on but have since gotten a SB
9A HMD. It will take some bracing but it is a real sturdy bench. If
you have a sears near by with a well equipped tool section they may
have it set up with the lathe (their largest) on it.
Fred (5273) |
| SB 9" 10K tech
manual Online! |
| The Army manual is
in Adobe format and the clarity is perfect! It has the parts
breakdown and numbers the same as the commercial one. This is the
link https://www.logsa.army.mil/etms/data/A/047809.pdf If that
doesn't work, go here: (and search tech manuals (TM) for 3416. There
is a dozen or so machine manuals. Go down to the SB 9".)
http://www.logsa.army.mil/etms/welcom1.htm
(5399) |
| Very nice information there. I was hoping to find
a manual for my Tree 2UVR vertical mill, but alas they only had a
very limited mill section (search TM with 3417 for mills, 3415-3420
are all machinery manuals as well) (5402) |
| South Bend
Lathe Manuals |
| I called
Rose Marvin direct at LeBlond Ltd.(888)532-5663. LeBlond Ltd. bought
the SBL Parts Business from South Bend Lathe. You can also email
Rose at: rmarvin@l... I have the following lathes and ordered the 9"
Catalog No. CE3455: $30.00, 10K Catalog No. CE3457: $30.00, and 13"
Catalog No. CE3458: $40.00 while they are still readily available
even though I have pretty much everything on the 10K already. They
will take all the major credit cards. Jim (5502) |
| 1973 SBL
Accessories Catalog |
| I've
completed the first of many SBL literature scans, and have uploaded
the result to my web site. As you may recall, a while back I had
solicited literature with the intent of scanning it and including it
on a comprehensive CD-ROM collection of SBL data. Until the fate of
SBL is sealed, I don't plan to release a lot of what I've done, but
I'm making this catalog available because I've found it quite
valuable in identifying parts. The file is big, about 7.5 MB in
size. However, it is of sufficiently high resolution to get a very
nice print off of a laser or ink jet printer. For those able to
download it, let me know how it looks, if there were any problems,
etc. I think I've got bandwidth limitations on my web site (the one
that comes free with my account) so if it downloads OK, I'd like to
find someplace else to put it in the near future. This group would
be a good place, but due to its size there just isn't enough room. Jeff (5775) |
| SB Lathe
Machine Shop course - Book |
| I've been
reading the earlier messages (I'm new to this great group) and if
there is still an interest in what the missing projects are here is
some of them. The book is 'Machine Shop Projects' (by SBL) copyright
1965, coded CE3475 and priced $1! The index as follows... 1. Nail
Set 2. Center Punch and Drift Punch 3. Plumb Bob 4. Lathe Mandrel 6.
600 Lathe Centers, No. 3 Morse Taper 8. Drill Pad 9. Crotch Center
11. Cup Center 12. Spur Center 13. 1" Bolt and Nut 14. Pipe Center
and Shank 15. Screw Driver 18. "C" Clamp 20. Machinist's Clamp 21.
Bell Center Punch 22. Center Punch With Sliding Sleeve Hammer 23.
Clamp Lathe Dog 24. Machinist's Hammer Kit 29. BorIng Bar For Lathe
30. Milling Arbor For Lathe 31. Morse Taper Standard Test 32. Morse
Taper Standard Test 36. Surface Gauge 39. Small Bench Vise 41.
Mercury Plumb Bob 42. Machinist's Jack Screw 44. Jack Screw 46.
Cabinetmaker's Vise 47. Adjustable Tap Wrench 48. "T" Handle Tap
Wrench.. 55. 6" Improved Water Motor. 58. Arbor Press 62. Hand Power
Emery Grinder.. 70. 1/4 H.P. Gasoline Engine. Dave
(6083) |
| Interesting
Compilation of Books |
| Thought this would
be of interested. http://www.arlingtonbooks.com/tools.html
Fred (6161) |
| Interesting
Web Site |
| For everyone's
edification. http://shopswarf.orcon.net.nz/sindex.html Fred (6783) |
| How to run a
lathe-book |
| One of the
more common editions of this book is the one that was reprinted by
Lindsay Books, the edition from 1943, I think. See
www.lindsaybks.com I don't think the book changed much from the
mid-1930's until then. An easier method of buying books is the
online services. Easier than eBay, and faster. Try using
www.abe.com ,
or www.bookfinder.com I have used these sites to locate many old
books. You can probably locate a book that was printed around the
same time your lathe was manufactured. Jon (6784) |
| I have an
original from the mid 30's. It's a pretty basic book. Although I did
learn a lot from it, that is because I'm just a beginner. Other than
that it's a good night time read but I'm not sure it has a lot of
value as a reference book. If I were you I'd try to take a look at
it before buying. Personally I'm glad that I didn't buy one of the
reprints. Although I had to pay a bit more for an original, there is
something about old books and old iron. John
(6785) |
| I bought the
Lindsay reprint and then acquired a lathe that came with the 1950
version from Southbend. They are very nearly identical, just a few
pics have changed. The book is excellent, if a bit on the basic
side. If I were starting over in the hobby it would be the first
book that I purchased and at $8 from Lindsay it's an absolute
bargain. Also, the quality of the reprint is excellent. John (6786) |
| Mine was $0.02 Canadian so if yours is US you only had to go to
$0.015 to outbid me!! I was thinking along the same lines when I
made my post, for $8 it's not worth doing a lot of research before
buying it. John
(6787) |
| For a new
member of this group, there are two books that I would recommend, in
addition to South Bend's _How to Run a Lathe_ book: The first is
_Machine Tool Practices_, by Kibbe. This book is used as a textbook
for machinist training. You can find older (pre-1995) versions of
this book cheaply online. ( www.half.com has it for under $15 with
shipping included) The second is _The Amateur's Lathe_, by L.H.
Sparey. This is an old British book, and shows many different setups
and techniques for a small lathe. More detailed information than
South Bend's book. Jon (6788) |
| Ignorance |
| In the posts on leveling there has been
mentioned a document only referred to at MTR. I have to say I am not
aware of it. I am sure I will be properly enlightened.
Fred
(6875) |
| "Machine Tool
Reconditioning" by Connelly. A wonderful, expensive, exhaustive book
on scraping and reconditioning of precision big-iron lathes, mills,
etc. Sold by Machine Tool Publications (in the back of Home Shop
Machinist). Paul R. (6876) |
| Metal Project
Plans |
| For all you metal
working types out there, here is a web site that offers metal
project plans. As well there is a place to submit plans for you to
sell on this site. www.Metalprojects.no-ip.com (6934) |
| Atlas manual |
| Since John brought
up the "A" word on this list, I have found that the Craftsman guide
to running a lathe (Craftsman was Sears' brand on the Atlas lathe)
is super. It is every bit as clear and simple as SB's "How to run a
lathe" and is more extensive. Highly recommended for amateur chipsters like me. Frank
(8075) |
| I support this view as well. The SB booklet is useful for
certain things, but the Sears booklet is a lot easier to use - lays
flat when open and has tabs to quickly locate things. It's always
been my first choice, ahead of opening either the SB or Machinery
Handbook. So far even the HLV-H hasn't complained to me about using
it, either. Mike
(8081) |
| When I was in
the Navy, 68-72, as a Machinery Repairman, the books supplied were
the MR 3 2 manuals. The MR 1 manual was also available, but I never
had one of those. The featured machines in the 3 2 manual was the
South Bend Lathe. If you can find an old timer, they would be worth
whatever they might cost you. Within reason, of course. At this
time, I don't know what the Navy uses for instruction and rating
manuals, but I'm sure they would be good, too. Just thinkin' out
loud. Tom (8086) |
| Try chapter 9
of the document at this address
http://www.advancement.cnet.navy.mil/products/catalogpages/14076.htm
(8203) |
| I need a good
book |
| I would like to ask what any of you would
recommend to a beginner as a book that I might learn how to use the
lathe. I would love to go to a school but my job doesn't give me the
time to do so. I have thought about the course that AGI offers on
Video tape but I am unsure of that option and it cost a lot. Frank
(9297) |
| How to run a
lathe Written by SouthBend, published by Lindsay for $7.95
(815)935-5353. c (9298) |
| South Bend's
How to run a lathe how to use a lathe from that book 40 years ago
and, in my opinion, it is still the best out there. Frank
(9299) |
| I am
completely self taught using three principle references. 1. How to
Run a Lathe by South Bend 2. Manual of Lathe Operations by Atlas
Press 3. The Amateur's Lathe, a classic by L. Sparry Items 1 and 3
are available from Lindsay Books. The "Manual of Lathe Operations" I
think can still be purchased from Clausing Parts who supplies parts
for all the old Atlas Lathes. All three of these can be purchased
from time to time on ebay also. Be careful on ebay though, to make
sure that you are buying a real book and not a CDRom. After
thoroughly studying these references, I find that most of what I
read elsewhere is redundant. I read the books, tried things out,
made mistakes occasionally, and in the process moved up the
learning curve. I have had a lot of fun doing it too. I would also
add that a lot is to be learned from a two periodicals published by
Village Press. They are "The Home Shop Machinist", and "Projects in
Metal". Perk ( 9303) |
| There
is a lot of good info on a US Army site about lathes. The page is
very long so it may take a while to load. The address is
http://155.217.58.58/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/tc/9-524/Ch7.htm Or you can go
to
http://155.217.58.58/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/query/download/TC+9-524
where you can view the files in "pdf" format. The lathe
article is
chapter 7. Jay (9310) |
|
http://155.217.58.58/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/tc/9-524/toc.htm
Try this, should work fine. Bill C. (9332) |
| Books
Recommendations |
| If it is available
across the sea I would recommend Amateurs Lathe by L.S. Sparey
published by MAP here in the UK or try Lindsay for their list etc
Southbend did their own users manual which was very good. pp (9340) |
| Having recently
been down this route, I can echo the recommendation for Sparey's
book, it's first class. Also, "Model Engineering" 'a Foundation
Course' by Peter Wright, ISBN 1-85486-152-2. In spite of the title,
the book is more about use of the lathe and mill etc, and very clear
and concise, leading one into the subject in a logical progression.
I got mine from Amazon for œ7.00, say $10.50 American. Len (9342) |
| Machine tool
vacation destination |
| If anyone is
planning to visit New England during vacation, I just thought i
would point out the American Precision Museum (Google for website)
in Windsor Vermont. Fabulous collection of old machine tools on
display and a good reference library. They're a bit disorganized but
have a new curator so things should smooth out. It's a stone's throw
from Springfield VT, home of the old Jones and Lamson, Felowes Gear,
Bryant Shaper etc etc. The guy who developed the turret lathe, James
Hartness built a mansion that is now an inn and serves an OK lunch.
Nice place to stay (you can book the room that Charles Lindbergh
used ) and Hartness, who became Gov of Vermont, built a very weird
telescope, partly underground and connected to the main house by a
tunnel. Interesting places to visit for machine tool folk. Frank
(10221) |
| FYI on lathe
choice article |
| Interesting article
at
http://www.livesteaming.com/Choosing%20a%20lathe.htm P.Isaac
(10242) |
| American
Machinist Assn-publications |
| A couple of weeks
ago a posting referred to a publication of the American Machinist
Association, a book which enumerated the ways to check wear on a
lathe (and I assume other machine tools) and what the acceptable
limits are. Does anybody have a source of this publication? I bet
several of us would like to get our own copy. Bill
(10834) |
| While
catching up on my backlog of Yahoo digests, I came across your
request. And as a newbie with an oldie 9" Junior, what you are
looking for is "American Standard B5.16-1941" for lathes. There are
5 small pages in Chapter 42 of my 1955 copyright edition of the "New
American Machinist's Handbook" published by McGraw-HIll; ISBN
07-037065-6. Bob (10885) |
| SB cross slide
screw repair URL |
| Here's a URL I
located on the web dealing with the repair of the cross slide screw
on a Southbend 13". I thought this info could pertain to smaller
Southbend lathes, like the 9".
http://pages.cthome.net/errol.groff/south_bend_cross_slide_screw_repair.htm
W. Sharp (12295) |
| Nice link for
general machining info |
| Good source of
elementary and intermediate info:
http://www.khake.com/page88.html John (12376) |
| Good Nice site for
lots of data. The late terms site is one most of know already.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/latheparts/index.html Note the
nomenclature on the tailstock that refers to the dead center.
Poppets is a slang term I had not heard before. Dave (12380) |
| New scanned
book |
| For those that are
interested, I've scanned another old SB publication into a PDF file
and posted it to the web. This book is titled "HAND BOOK No 44-A
Showing 150 Shop Kinks", published in 1927. It is essentially a
1927-1928 catalog including lathes and attachments. I'm not really
sure what they considered "shop kinks" back then, but I couldn't
find any :) The file is about 6.5 MB, but it's fairly
high-resolution so you can zoom into 200% without visible losses.
Enjoy!
http://www.zetagraphics.com/shop/sbparts/hand_book_no_44a-1927.pdf
(13914) |
| Machine Tool
Reconditioning |
| Great book, LOTS of
expertise. I recommend it w/o hesitation, but don't expect to be an
expert in an afternoon. Here's the info from The Home Shop Machinist
magazine: "Machine Tool Reconditioning" by Edward F. Connelly $92.95
list + $6.75 p/h, 25% discount on 20 books or more. Call Dan at
651-458-1540 or send check/money order to: MACHINE TOOL PUBLICATIONS
935 Holley Ave. St. Paul Park, Minnesota 55071. Paul H (14570) |
| Gears for an
old 13" SB |
| I may pick up an
older 13" South Bend as a winter project. To get it up and running
I'll need some change gears. The lathe is probably 1920's or earlier
- flat belt, no quick change gear box. What's the best place to find
these? (14790) |
| The gears you can
get from Boston gear. RC (14799) |
| Good info for
novices |
| About ten days ago
I broke down and forked out $$ for "Machine Shop Practice" (Moltrech)
Vols. I II. For novices such as I, the chapter on single point
cutting tools alone is worth many tines the price of the books.
While "How To Run a Lathe" was, for me, a great starting point,
"Machine Shop Practice" goes into much greater depth. Not being a
machinist myself, and not having a mentor, these two books would've
made the past two years so much easier for me. I highly recommend
them to any beginner. John T. |
| What was the
source of the MSP Vol I II and the price. |
| Vol I was $17.95
vol II $19.95 from Enco. Product codes BP205-0500 BP205-0505. If you
can order $50.00 or more, promotion code FS14 should get you free
shipping for regular ground shipping (UPS) These two books are
really worth their prices. John T. |
| I just ordered
these two books from Enco. They are currently on sale for $15.95
each. I added some other needed stuff to get my order over $50 and
then applied the promo code below. Mike |
| Penntoolcompany is
selling the set of vol1 and vol2 for I think$35 or very close to
that. They will ship to Canada for an extra $15.I think I will take
the groups advice and order a set. My booklets "How to run a lathe"
"Running an engine lathe "just arrived from Las Vegas. They are just
great reading. They have all the answers to all my silly questions
from a few days ago. Should maybe be required reading for the newbie
to the group. Tom |
| John, do you have
contact info or a website for Enco? |
| Try
www.use-enco.com Also note
that the product codes are 205-1005 and 205-1006 for the other set
of Machine Shop Practice Volume I Vol 2 by Karl Hans Moltrecht.
These are presently on sale for $15.99 each. I just ordered them
this morning. And don't forget to use the promotion code FS14 to get
the free shipping. Mike |
| I don't mean to
step on John's toes, but I have an Enco catalog in front of me at
the moment. It says
http://www.use-enco.com also, 1-800-use-enco or 1-800-873-3626
Fax = 1-800-965-5857 They show about 20 pages of very appetizing
machine shop references including (with fanfare please) Guy
Lautard's bedside readers! Bob |
| So which books are
the ones to get? The Bedside Readers or the Machine Shop Practice
Volume I Vol 2 by Karl Hans Moltrecht? Maybe I ordered the wrong
books. Mike |
| Actually, I bought
BSR 1st 2nd as well as MSP I II. Both are excellent. I found BSR to
be more project oriented - learn by doing and MSP to be more text
book like. I needed both because doing the projects using my "shade
tree" techniques would be less beneficial. OTH, the textbook
learning without w/o application would've been, for me, less useful.
So, I got all four books and am happy I did. But I'm a just rank
amateur and don't have a "Rabbi" so I learn the best way I can.
Certainly, there are many more books available and no doubt many of
those are better than the ones I selected. I merely wanted to point
out, for any other non-machinist types, that these were available
and that I found them to be helpful. I know so little about the
trade and there is so much to learn. Yesterday I completed mmy 65th
year on this big dirt ball. I hope to gain a modicum of competence
before I'm sent to that big home machine shop in the sky. John T. |
| You won't be
sorry. I blew it and didn't get the free shipping and my order was
like $134.00 but I didn't learn about the promo code for free
shipping until after I received my order. BTW, I placed the order
online News Year eve and it arrived on the 2nd. That was with
standard shipping! John T. |
| Good basic book
here:
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~jordan88/EngWkshpPractice1942.zip 3.2
MB, PDF, Zipped. (16483) |
| Improving your
S.B. lathe |
| In the
Dec.2002/Jan.2003 issue of Machinist Workshop page 18 I have an
article on things I have done over the years to improve the 9" and
light 10. lathes. This includes converting to V-belt drive, improved
tool holders, 2 tailstock accessories and a #3 Morse tailstock
spindle. John (16807) |
| When is the issue
shipping? I received a subscription for Xmas, so I have been holding
off from running out and buying a copy, but I am afraid I am going
to miss an issue. JW (16837) |
| JW, That issue is
already in my hands and has been for some time. Both of the
magazines, Projects and HSM, are carried by Barns and Noble. You
should be able to find one there. Fred (16838) |
| Finding 20mm X
1.5 pitch threaded rod |
| I am having bad
luck finding 20mm X 1.5 pitch threaded rod. Tom C. (17890) |
| Try fuller metric
in Vancouver or Toronto. I don't know the minimum order thought.
http://www.fullermetric.com
You could also try a search for "threaded rod M20x1.5". dennis
(17892) |
| Magazines to
read (Canadian) |
| Could some of the
Canadian members suggest magazines available to Canada that would be
of interest to a newbie machinist. I think something that has some
simple projects and how to articles would be best. Please don't send
me to a magazine that will overwhelm me all at once or I may get
discouraged. Tom (17912) |
| Only three
magazines come to mind immediately. They are "The Home Shop
Machinist" and "Machinist's Workshop" both published by Village
Press. The third is "Model Engineers' Workshop" published by
Highbury Nexus Special Interests Ltd, in the UK. The former are
bi-monthly publications published such that you receive a magazine
every month. The latter is published by weekly and is available
through Wise Owl Worldwide Publications in California. Each of these
magazines have something for hobbyists of all levels. Granted, some
will not have articles that you would pursue but I have always
managed to learn something from each of them. The two stateside
publications can be obtained at your local Barns and Noble or
Borders Book store for you to decide if you wish to subscribe. There
is one other publication out of the UK called "Model Engineer" but
this is close to a $100.00 a year subscription and much more
advanced then I would want. Fred (17915) |
| Tom, What I've done
was to scout through the internet for various projects (I also
printed them and put them in a binder for future reference) and go
the library and check out books on the subject. While our library
doesn't carry any machining type books, they are involved in the
library lending program whereas they can get books from other
libraries. I've got three books out at the moment, "Machining
Fundamentals", "Two Shop Masters" and "The Shop Wisdome of Rudy
Kouhoupt", all from the library. "Two Shop Masters" is the best book
I've check out, for my purposes and I'll eventually buy it. In the
past I've gotten many more from the library, including "The Home
Shop Machinist's Handbook" which I later purchased. Borrowing from
the library allows you to look at the books to see if it's what you
have in mind, and if it is, you can later purchase it commercially.
Look at E-bay and www.half.com for
relatively cheap books, and sometimes, magazines. I'm assuming
Canada's libraries are run like the U.S. If not, I may have wasted
your time. Dave (17916) |
| Dave, I will check
out those titles. In this internet age, I am ashamed to say, I
forgot to check with the library in our town.Is there no popular
machining magazine that comes out monthly? Forgetting the fact I
live in Canada is there an American one? We do go to the US quite
regularly. I only live a few miles from a border but it would be
expensive to just go for a magazine Maybe a word to my shopping wife
with the right title would help. Thanks for the reminder about the
trusty library. Tom (17925) |
| Tom, I've compiled
a list of books that you may want to look for. Some I've seen,
others I've not. Shop Wisdom of D. E. Johnson Two Shop Masters
– Frank McLean Philip Duclos The Shop Wisdom of Rudy Kouhoupt
The Shop Wisdom of Rudy Kouhoupt, Volume Two The Shop Wisdom of Rudy
Kouhoupt, Volume Three The Shop Wisdom of Frank McLean The Shop
Wisdom of Philip Duclos Machine Shop Practice, Volume One Machine
Shop Practice, Volume Two Advanced Machine Work Machine Shop
Projects (by South Bend Lathe) The Home Shop Machinist's Handbook
Projects One (by Home Shop Machinist) Projects Two (by Home Shop
Machinist) Projects Three (by Home Shop Machinist) Projects Four (by
Home Shop Machinist) Projects Five (by Home Shop Machinist) Projects
Six (by Home Shop Machinist) Projects Seven (by Home Shop Machinist)
Metal Working, Book One (by Home Shop Machinist) Metal Working, Book
Two (by Home Shop Machinist) Metal Working, Book Three (by Home Shop
Machinist) Also, you can go to the Home Shop Machinist
http://www.homeshopmachinist.net and order any of the
books, but they aren't necessarily cheap. You can also subscribe to
the Home Shop Machinist, Live Steam, and/or Machinist's Workshop
from the site. You may be able to obtain back copies of the
magazines through the library. Also order the catalog from Lindsay
Publications (they reprint old books, and have some books that may
be of interest) at
http://www.lindsaybks.com/HomePage.html I don't believe there
are any monthly machinist magazines, at least not for the hobbyist.
The above magazines are bi-monthly. Dave (17928) |
| Dave. I'll have
something to do for some time I think I'll check out those magazines
online and the other sites, I really appreciate your efforts. Tom
(17934) |
| Tom, The list Dave
sent you are hard back books. The list I sent you are periodicals.
Model Engineers Workshop is bi-weekly. Fred (17936) |
| Fred, I don't
remember a list from you (I do forget a lot, sorry) I checked out
the magazine sights but don't get a heck of a lot of info, just
subscription rates. Is it all in a metric type of format? (model
engineers workshop) I think it is a bit pricey for me as well. I do
thank you for the help though. I think I will try to find a copy of
the Home Machinist magazine for now. I live so close to the border
that maybe it is the best way to go, if I get anything. The wife is
rumbling again about my hobbies :-) May have to lay low for a while.
Tom (17937) |
| Tom The Home Shop
Machinist projects are summarized in a series of hard cover books.
1. Home Shop Machinist Metal Working and 2. Projects. I believe they
are all published by Village Press. I've purchased the first 3
volumes of HSM Metal Working from a seller on eBay. He doesn't ship
to Canada for eBay sales but he has a bookstore that will ship to us
Canucks. His price is actually slightly cheaper than ordering from
Village Press. Search for seller "tech003" (17965) |
| Jacobs Drill
Web Site |
| Another web site
posted on rec.crafts.metalworking that is quite pertinent to this
site is at
http://www.beautifuliron.com/jacobs.htm It describes disassembly
of a Jacobs drill chuck. Dave (18032) |
| Calculator |
| I was again looking
at the newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking this morning and found a
calculator that would fill in the blanks when one is looking for
spacing of a bolt hole circle, give all the lengths/angles of a
triangle when three known values are known, cutting speeds, etc. I
needed to know about the values of a triangle last week when I was
building a stand for by bandsaw and had to fudge it since it's been
a while since I've taken geometry. It's a zipped file.
http://www.cncca.co.uk/CNCLINK/download/Freebies/CodeCalc.zip
Dave (18041) |
| Website with
neat stuff? |
| In response to my
"how do you radius on a manual lathe" post, someone sent me a link
to
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/4425/ Lots of
neat stuff there. (18901) |
| Parts for
Heavy 10 (oil cups) |
| I am reviving a SB
Heavy 10 that has been used and abused. The questions and answers
posted on this site have been very helpful, and I would like to know
if any one has any of of the following parts for sale. 1. Apron hand
wheel 2. Collet closer link that connects the hand handle yoke to
the headstock 3. Collet closer oil cup 4. 63 tooth back shaft gear.
(22174) |
| Gits mfg makes the
oil cups. They have a web site at :
http://www.gitsmfg.com (22181) |
| I found
several items that are needed on the Gits site. Joe (22185) |
| Elementary ed |
| There are books
like this. They were intended for the apprentice of the 19th-20th
century era. I believe the instructions you want are called "job
lists", i.e. a sort of "recipe". One of the nicest old books is R.
J. Smith's "Advanced Machine Work", which Lindsay sells for $30. It
takes the "job list" approach.
http://www.lindsaybks.com/bks/advmach/index.html 800 pages
and it covers more than turning. It's hard to hard to find an entire
book on turning metal (unless it is bulked out with tables and
projects), because there just is not that much to it that can be
written down. Tool bit angles, speeds and feeds, materials as tools
and as work, unit operations, threading, machine controls. There is
also another, more elementary book by Smith. ("Elements of Machine
Work", matter of fact). (Get and use a Lindsay catalog). This
elementary one just about starts at "how to hold a hammer" (I'm
serious). I couldn't find it on the website, but it was in the
catalog last summer. For an old text (1894) that does NOT take the
job list/schedule of ops approach, see those by Joshua Rose. "The
Complete Practical Machinist" is good. Most of this stuff was
learned by men right on the shop or school floor, often simply by
observing the more experienced hands. There is nothing, alas, that
really replaces having an old hand say "Like this, boy" and show you
how to, say, grind a tool bit. Imitation is a powerful teacher. A
personal visit might be in order. Find out when the class is
scheduled and show up around quitting time. Inspect the class shop,
too. Do they even have a manual lathe? How many? Are they in use?
"Machine Shop" is being discontinued and replaced with training CNC
operators and welding -- response to industrial demand. Manual arts
are being ended at high skools in general, giving way to gay sex
seminars, "computer literacy", fear of litigation should little Joey
cut his hand, high per-pupil costs, shortage of politically correct
shop teachers. Also, a girl isn't interested in stinky noisy
machines (unless you give her a chance), and skools and the wymyn
who run them are interested only in girls. In many skools, if manual
arts are taught at all, they amount to making pine spice racks with
nails and Elmer's. [end rant against modern times, sorry...]. A
gunsmithing place may be more suited to learning pre-CNC machining.
But we're not turning out many gunsmiths, either. When the US needs
a machinist, we call Mexico or east Europe; just like our
grandfathers, they're ready to emigrate here to practice their
crafts. Dave (22318) |
| An excellent
reference can be downloaded at:
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~jordan88/EngWkshpPractice1942.zip
(22324) |
| Gear Cutting -
handy paperback |
| There is a
terrific little book on gears, gear cutting and making gear cutters
here [eBay (US)] :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
category=25281 item=3857936802 rd=1 ssPageName=WD2V or a little
cheaper - but allow for shipping - here [eBay (UK)] :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
category=64733 item=3857423181 rd=1 ssPageName=WDVW I have an older
edition of this literature myself and I think it makes a good
starting point. Tim (22595) |
| Stateside, there is
an outfit called Wise Owl Publications who handles my Model
Engineering magazine subscription (really nice folks). They also
handle the complete range of Argus publications and can supply the
"Workshop" series books. You can call them at (562) 461-7574 or go
to their web page:
http://www.wiseowlmagazines.com/company1.html George
(22608) |
| Wiseowl prices are
often as good or better than those on ebay and they include
shipping. For those of us in Canada, Busybeetools carries most of
the series and their price including shipping is often better than
Wiseowl. Sometimes it pays to shop around. John (22613) |
| John, do you have a
weblink please for Busybee . Tim (22645) |
| Try
http://busybeetools.com
Their price includes shipping in Canada, I don't know about
international shipping though. They have a 1-800 number or you can
use email to find out. John (22646) |
| Great site for
info |
| Look over this web
site. www.newmantools.com I
have never done any business with them but they have a site with
information that I could not believe. Amce Tap Drill Sizer Decimal
Equivalents Info. Pitch Conversions Tap Drill Sizes All you want to
know about Taps Many more that I have not gotten to but will over
this weekend. Dave (23607) |
| Hemingway Kits |
| Check out
www.hemingwaykits.com for
the current on-line catalogue. Some comments on shipping close to
back. Basically the parcels are heavy so shipping is expensive but
pro-rata less for one heavy than several light. Most economic way is
to get a traveler to bring stuff back in their luggage. They also do
"essentials only" versions of the kits leaving you to source
standard components locally. I understand that there is a fair cost
saving but some of the kits have a pretty impressive cutting list if
you want to make best use of stock sizes to minimize machining time.
Reputation for quality is well earned. I understand that the
business has been through change of ownership. I believe Mr.
Hemingway retired a while back and things were kept pretty low
profile during the change-over and settling down period for the new
owners. I gather they are ramping the business up a bit now.
Concerning the definitions:- MS in the UK is Mild Steel which does
have a specific range of characteristics being a soft ductile, low
carbon, steel with a typical tensile strength of around 60,000 to
70,000 lb. Its great virtue is that, unless spectacularly mishandled
during fabrication, components made from it are essentially immune
from stress fractures or fatigue problems. Welding is trouble free.
I understand that in the USA the term MS often means Merchant Stock
meaning a cheap steel for undemanding applications and fabrication
by machining, mechanical fastening or, possibly brazing. Usually its
whatever is "cheap this week" so both analysis and properties can
vary considerably. Its always a pretty basic carbon steel but the
carbon percentage can vary considerably and there may be other stuff
in it. Production process is usually not well controlled so you can
get some surprises when you start digging in and the stresses start
coming out. Unfortunately this version of MS is starting to appear
on this side of the pond too. I've had so called MS start to crack
under moderate bending and after welding. (24128) |
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